Curse

quicksilv3r · Jan 12, 2008, 01:52 AM // 01:52

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Originally Posted by Harrier's haste

Here is the thing:

People who got banned:
Hated Anet for banning their account They are on fire(mad, enojadan)

People who didn't get banned:
Gj for Anet on cleaning out 117 hackers!

And then........
FLAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>.>---^---<.<

thats negative! bro, i am not banned! And am angry that anet banned them elite 117's and not ban people who sell runs get max armor and ferry's to LA or KC to lvl3 kamdan natives., they r exploiting too

SolidShadow · Jan 12, 2008, 01:52 AM // 01:52

rath no more, some guy found out to farm mallyx fast, everyone joins up, they all farm him no big deal.
they all get banned. big deal.

there are ways to make way more mony then that farm atm ingame , its just the justice part wich i say aint done right.

Arch the · Jan 12, 2008, 01:53 AM // 01:53

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Originally Posted by dkn doko

i agree with you 100%. We are using the same files as everyone else. The people that used the guild hall glitch, did they get banned? no i think not. Did they use an exploit to benfit themselves, yes they did. So really what is the difference. Like someone said before some of the armbraces dulpers got there accounts back so is this a fair punishinment? i think not

~Roman

Also the Heart of the Shiverpeaks exploit where you could just run to the chest or the Duncan one.

The Great Ithqua · Jan 12, 2008, 01:53 AM // 01:53

i'm still very surprised at the number of people in this thread 191 still rising i guess.. but like saopaulo said none of you can help us.. through i would like to know who are the 117.. i think very soon there will be a legend the 117 that never came back killed by the hands of Mallyx..lolz but this will have a impact on the selling of GW games i think afterall the fact does not change that some were ban without knowing it was a bug and were still ban, frankly speaking i'm already telling my friends not to play it . Well in anycase no GW means CABAL SEA for me !!!

Harrier's haste · Jan 12, 2008, 01:55 AM // 01:55

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Originally Posted by quicksilv3r

thats negative! bro, i am not banned! And am angry that anet banned them elite 117's and not ban people who sell runs get max armor and ferry's to LA or KC to lvl3 kamdan natives., they r exploiting too

Here is the thing:

People who got banned:
Hated Anet for banning their account They are on fire(mad, enojadan)

People who didn't get banned:
Gj for Anet on cleaning out 117 hackers!

And then........
FLAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>.>---^---<.<

How IS that negative? And if you think it is, I'm sorry for messing up your already gloom mood. MY BAD, OK? MY BAD I AM SORRY EVERYONE FOR MAKING YOU FEEL BAD, I MEAN IT TOO

Harrier's haste · Jan 12, 2008, 01:56 AM // 01:56

No but seriously my bad for making anyone feel really really really bad.

Zehnchu · Jan 12, 2008, 01:56 AM // 01:56

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Originally Posted by truzo 117

You just dont read. no one hacked or used a 3rd party tool of any kind.

So you are admitting that you are the first person who some how found this outpost and then dragged 116 other players there to exploit it.

Messy · Jan 12, 2008, 01:57 AM // 01:57

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Originally Posted by The Great Ithqua

this thread so gone so long that i dont have time to read all 60 pages, i was one of the 117 people that gone ban, went there twice got only crap drops from mobs and some cash we didnt even get the door open. Here's what =i felt when i first knew about this, of course i was shock then i said how was this possible my party said they had no idea, obviously the party leader had a monk parked there.i find it very hard to believe but they said its perfectly normal.(FYI i think i was one of the guild alliance of that guild that knew this well maybe )
i dont mind you calling me stupid but i didnt knew the outpost was a bug/hack there was any word that says bug or anything ,until the day before yesterday when my account was ban and i came here to read .i have no solid evidence to back up my story but i believe Anet will give me a fair answer(hopefully)but if it doesnt i will just go play CabalSea.

Hmmmm you might want to read this... So you went in there just twice? are you sure? hmmm

Gaile Gray · Jan 12, 2008, 01:58 AM // 01:58

I would like to settle a question that some have raised. Was a hack involved in this exploit? Yes. If it "wasn't an exploit," or "was a simple ferrying maneuver," then perhaps one of you innocent travelers can explain that to me via PM? For the way I understand it, and I've just spent time with the content programming team to confirm, you get to the outpost by hacking the client, or by using the exploit gained through the client hack. I just watched a few programmers use every trick in the book, including Guild Halls and other things, to try to end up at that hidden outpost (as a few players have claimed they did.) And the programmers could not make it happen.

You didn't get to the outpost from a crash, a server burp, a roll-back, a glitch with the Guild Hall, or a sacrifice to Grenth. So my point is, some of the banned players may not have done the actual hacking, but they certainly used the exploit that resulted from the hack, and they certainly were able to profit from it.

As someone on the team said, "They get a ferry -- usually having being told such access is 'top secret' and after being sworn to secrecy. They end up in a outpost that doesn't show on their map, that they've never seen before (even though they completed the mission), and that contains no NPCs. At some point, they have to realize that something isn't right, particularly since they've completed the mission and they know that getting the end reward involves doing a lot more than simply taking out Mallyx."

I am not going to speak in absolutes. But I am not going to see you lied to, either. If someone can disprove this, please let me know, because all of us believe this to be 100% true: Everything logical, and everything we've been able to establish points out that those who used the exploit benefited, directly or indirectly, from a game hack. And both exploits and hacks are against the User Agreement. Isn't it really that simple?

Creeping Carl · Jan 12, 2008, 01:59 AM // 01:59

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Originally Posted by Harrier's haste

Here is the thing:

Is it really necessary for you to post the exact same damn thing twice?

Arch the · Jan 12, 2008, 01:59 AM // 01:59

come on ANET you ban these 117 people so quickly but you leave those Bergan Hot Spring bots farming undead, Altrumn Ruins bots farming wardens, Maatu Keep bots farming those funny looking things, Elona Reach bots farming minotours, Droks bots farming trolls.

SolidShadow · Jan 12, 2008, 02:01 AM // 02:01

Thats the number wich was banned wich was made up for a part of an excuse so it doesnt look alot of people, but the source is 1 guy so everything else except that one is beeing injustised thats whats this thread is about, people trying to proof that they went for an easy farm but did not know it was that many impact.

Fact: most of the players had more then 5k hour ingame time, as probably a dedicated player yourself you know you wont do something wich gets you banned on an account wich got that much hours played.

Fact: if it would last few more hours more then 10.000 people would have done it.

Fact: everyone except for the one who started this 3rd party exploid wich is confirmed is injustished.

Fact: they took the easy way out by just banning everyone involved.

Fact: lots of angy people cause of injustice.

And if you really want to put down these people, wonder if you would have taking a party invite aswell if they offered you to go kill mallyx. How could you know? everyone was doing it.

The relationship officiers in this thread are showing the admin point of view wich is very understanable , the banned people are showing the community side of view also understanable.

So before you post please read the comments of the people really involved and ask yourself why would a person with 10k hours risking to get his account banned. Trust me its not the mony.

erikjo · Jan 12, 2008, 02:01 AM // 02:01

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

I would like to settle a question that some have raised. Was a hack involved in this exploit? Yes. If it "wasn't an exploit," or "was a simple ferrying maneuver," then perhaps one of you innocent travelers can explain that to me via PM? For the way I understand it, and I've just spent time with the content programming team to confirm, you get to the outpost by hacking the client, or by using the exploit gained through the client hack. I just watched a few programmers use every trick in the book, including Guild Halls and other things, to try to end up at that hidden outpost (as a few players have claimed they did.) And the programmers could not make it happen.

You didn't get to the outpost from a crash, a server burp, a roll-back, a glitch with the Guild Hall, or a sacrifice to Grenth. So my point is, some of the banned players may not have done the actual hacking, but they certainly used the exploit that resulted from the hack, and they certainly were able to profit from it.

As someone on the team said, "They get a ferry -- usually having being told such access is 'top secret' and after being sworn to secrecy. They end up in a outpost that doesn't show on their map, that they've never seen before (even though they completed the mission), and that contains no NPCs. At some point, they have to realize that something isn't right, particularly since they've completed the mission and they know that getting the end reward involves doing a lot more than simply taking out Mallyx."

I am not going to speak in absolutes. But I am not going to see you lied to, either. If someone can disprove this, please let me know, because all of us believe this to be 100% true: Everything logical, and everything we've been able to establish points out that those who used the exploit benefited, directly or indirectly, from a game hack. And both exploits and hacks are against the User Agreement. Isn't it really that simple?

Unfortunately, logic eludes some people. Good job Anet!!

ghostlyfenix · Jan 12, 2008, 02:02 AM // 02:02

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Originally Posted by pochoWICKED

Yea I got banned too. Not Happy about it. A lot of 1337 people got banned for this. And I think we should have at least got a warning or something before a straight-up permanent ban. Whatever though, I just don't think it's right, because pretty much everyone involved in this has been playing for like 2 years and has spent a lot of money buying expansions, char slots, etc....

yeh tell u a f'ing warning , so u can transfer all the valuable stuff u exploited to a new acc before they whoop ur ass, u deserve to be banned AHAHAHAHAHAH

Cuthroat Dibbler · Jan 12, 2008, 02:02 AM // 02:02

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

I would like to settle a question that some have raised. Was a hack involved in this exploit? Yes. If it "wasn't an exploit," or "was a simple ferrying maneuver," then perhaps one of you innocent travelers can explain that to me via PM? For the way I understand it, and I've just spent time with the content programming team to confirm, you get to the outpost by hacking the client, or by using the exploit gained through the client hack. I just watched a few programmers use every trick in the book, including Guild Halls and other things, to try to end up at that hidden outpost (as a few players have claimed they did.) And the programmers could not make it happen.

You didn't get to the outpost from a crash, a server burp, a roll-back, a glitch with the Guild Hall, or a sacrifice to Grenth. So my point is, some of the banned players may not have done the actual hacking, but they certainly used the exploit that resulted from the hack, and they certainly were able to profit from it.

As someone on the team said, "They get a ferry -- usually having being told such access is 'top secret' and after being sworn to secrecy. They end up in a outpost that doesn't show on their map, that they've never seen before (even though they completed the mission), and that contains no NPCs. At some point, they have to realize that something isn't right, particularly since they've completed the mission and they know that getting the end reward involves doing a lot more than simply taking out Mallyx."

I am not going to speak in absolutes. But I am not going to see you lied to, either. If someone can disprove this, please let me know. But in the meantime, everything logical, and everything we've been able to establish points out that those who used the exploit benefited, directly or indirectly, from a game hack. And both exploits and hacks are against the User Agreement. Isn't it really that simple?

Thx GG

Can you also provide us with assurances that even the 2nd, 3rd and however many more accounts some of these people have will follow the same path as their primary account and get banned too?

Its galling to see them come back on here and crow how they have survived this and have merely moved to their Alts. The guy from GANK springs to mind, not only does he admit to having an Alt in an illegal location he clearly believes he has a right to continue shafting the game.

And can you provide any info on the minis and ultra rare equipment that has been removed from the game as a result of this recent aggro? Are we likely to see ANY of it again or are these things truly lost once and for all? To some of us these details are important as they are the things we are still aiming for

quicksilv3r · Jan 12, 2008, 02:02 AM // 02:02

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Originally Posted by Harrier's haste

No but seriously my bad for making anyone feel really really really bad.

itsnot you bro its anet, and the time it take them to fix things. when they know trust me they know about the bugs/exploits/glitches 48-72hrs after they are found and they do crap about it... and still i see ferry runs to get max armor from kamadan.

Jake_Steel · Jan 12, 2008, 02:03 AM // 02:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

I would like to settle a question that some have raised. Was a hack involved in this exploit? Yes. If it "wasn't an exploit," or "was a simple ferrying maneuver," then perhaps one of you innocent travelers can explain that to me via PM? For the way I understand it, and I've just spent time with the content programming team to confirm, you get to the outpost by hacking the client, or by using the exploit gained through the client hack. I just watched a few programmers use every trick in the book, including Guild Halls and other things, to try to end up at that hidden outpost (as a few players have claimed they did.) And the programmers could not make it happen.

You didn't get to the outpost from a crash, a server burp, a roll-back, a glitch with the Guild Hall, or a sacrifice to Grenth. So my point is, some of the banned players may not have done the actual hacking, but they certainly used the exploit that resulted from the hack, and they certainly were able to profit from it.

As someone on the team said, "They get a ferry -- usually having being told such access is 'top secret' and after being sworn to secrecy. They end up in a outpost that doesn't show on their map, that they've never seen before (even though they completed the mission), and that contains no NPCs. At some point, they have to realize that something isn't right, particularly since they've completed the mission and they know that getting the end reward involves doing a lot more than simply taking out Mallyx."

I am not going to speak in absolutes. But I am not going to see you lied to, either. If someone can disprove this, please let me know, because all of us believe this to be 100% true: Everything logical, and everything we've been able to establish points out that those who used the exploit benefited, directly or indirectly, from a game hack. And both exploits and hacks are against the User Agreement. Isn't it really that simple?

Thank you,

I knew all along there was a hack.

I D E L E T E D I · Jan 12, 2008, 02:05 AM // 02:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

I would like to settle a question that some have raised. Was a hack involved in this exploit? Yes. If it "wasn't an exploit," or "was a simple ferrying maneuver," then perhaps one of you innocent travelers can explain that to me via PM? For the way I understand it, and I've just spent time with the content programming team to confirm, you get to the outpost by hacking the client, or by using the exploit gained through the client hack. I just watched a few programmers use every trick in the book, including Guild Halls and other things, to try to end up at that hidden outpost (as a few players have claimed they did.) And the programmers could not make it happen.

You didn't get to the outpost from a crash, a server burp, a roll-back, a glitch with the Guild Hall, or a sacrifice to Grenth. So my point is, some of the banned players may not have done the actual hacking, but they certainly used the exploit that resulted from the hack, and they certainly were able to profit from it.

As someone on the team said, "They get a ferry -- usually having being told such access is 'top secret' and after being sworn to secrecy. They end up in a outpost that doesn't show on their map, that they've never seen before (even though they completed the mission), and that contains no NPCs. At some point, they have to realize that something isn't right, particularly since they've completed the mission and they know that getting the end reward involves doing a lot more than simply taking out Mallyx."

I am not going to speak in absolutes. But I am not going to see you lied to, either. If someone can disprove this, please let me know, because all of us believe this to be 100% true: Everything logical, and everything we've been able to establish points out that those who used the exploit benefited, directly or indirectly, from a game hack. And both exploits and hacks are against the User Agreement. Isn't it really that simple?

Wow i am impressed, you have acctually restored some of my faith in you and Anet again. First of all you did some research into this whole matter, which clearly shows it did bother you. And secondly you came out and told us even after alot of people were bitching about you alot(including myself).

I am deeply sorry for what i said and i really hope you will keep this level of relationships up with us.

I also want to say that there is still a certain someone about in the Game who owns a very very large Luxon alliance on his 2nd account. Just thought youd like to know :P

Thanks alot Gaile

akazukin cha cha · Jan 12, 2008, 02:05 AM // 02:05

Its funny how all of the 117 players have no problem with just straight up lying.

You all knew it wasn't right. You all know something was wrong, you all know people get caught doing exploits....but you still did it.

Own up to it and take your lessons learned to the next game you play, play by the rules the rest of us have to play by.

good riddance.

quicksilv3r · Jan 12, 2008, 02:06 AM // 02:06

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Originally Posted by Arch the

come on ANET you ban these 117 people so quickly but you leave those Bergan Hot Spring bots farming undead, Altrumn Ruins bots farming wardens, Maatu Keep bots farming those funny looking things, Elona Reach bots farming minotours, Droks bots farming trolls.

dam !@#$%, also them gold sellers are they in the 117 ban?